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First Time Growers: Common Mistakes

December 24th, 2008 by Silvio

tFS Note: This is the first in a series of marijuana cultivation posts aimed at first time growers. Our guest author is Silvio from WeedFarmer.net – the comprehensive growing guide blog. Welcome Silvio to theFreshScent and be sure to give your own input on his articles.

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Growing is easy right? You buy some seeds, source a couple of pots, grab lights, dump in the soil and then instantly start to grow weed. Sounds pretty simple!

Well, it is… until the first real roadblock makes itself known.

Luckily, we are here to get you past those roadblocks before they even materialize. Just remember; every mistake you are about to make, someone before you did the exact same thing. So, lets try and avoid the most common mistakes made by first time growers.

1) Overwatering

Overwatering kills your plants. Simple as that.

Only water once the top few inches of soil dries out, just stick your finger in the pot and test if it’s dry. Hydroponics is very hard to over-water, due to the abundance of water roots, but it’s still a good idea to keep a close watch.

2) Telling Other People

This should be obvious.

Telling other people will only make them jealous, it also gives them power over you. People love to feel important, if 4 weeks from now there’s a disagreement, you have no idea (or control of) who finds out there’s a grow-up at your house. So don’t tell anyone anything unless you absolutely have to. Keep it to yourself.

3) Touch / Kill Germinating Seeds

Waiting is never nice, especially for germination. But remember, some seeds may take up to ten days until they sprout. Some growers will tell you the paper towel method is not recommended because you must personally handle the seeds when transferring from the paper towel to your growing medium. I think that’s not a problem, just be careful and hygienic when handling your seeds.

Read the rest of Silvio’s tips after the jump!

4) Growing Bag Seeds

If you want to set yourself up for failure, this is the way to go. There’s a very good reason why experienced growers buy their seeds only from established seed banks – they are purchasing quality.

If you find seeds in your stash, you can use them, but don’t get your hopes up. Here’s why; self-seeding marijuana is produced from hermaphrodite plants or a very stunted and late flowering male that the grower did not notice. Flowered hermi-seeds will produce tall late flowering females coupled with early flowering males. This is not a good combination.

Plus, supporting top-tier grow banks means your crop will produce more and be worth more. It’s a no-brainer.

5) Over-Fertilization

Fertilize after first set of true leaves appear. Start with 25% of what the label says and work your way up. If the leaves suddenly twist or fold under, leach and spray with pure water for several days!

Don’t fertilize your plants every time you water if you grow in soil. A common watering schedule is to fertilize at full strength, then water at half or quarter strength. This prevents salt build-up, leaf burn and root burn. In addition, don’t water at full strength if the medium is too dry – root burn can occur. I like to flush my plants once every two-three weeks, to make sure everything is balanced.

6) Under-Fertilization

This doesn’t really happen that often, but it’s worth mentioning. If you want to give the plant ‘just enough’ nutrients, use an organic soil mixture with blood meal and bone meal or some slow release fertilizer with micro-nutrients.

7) Don’t Start With Clones

Start with the real deal… seeds.

You don’t want to spoil your garden with bugs and diseases. A lot of growers are able to grow indoors without pest problems for years, why introduce foreign elements? Another grower’s cuttings are almost guaranteed to have diseases or pests. Also, if you start with seeds, you can produce a mother plant (for clones) yourself.

8) Growing In Dirty / Unhealthy Environments

Provide air circulation and fresh air even during the night cycle. All the air in your grow space should be replaced every 5-10 minutes. Humidity between 30-70% temp aim for around 75-85 degrees.

Even seedlings need a gentle fan to strengthen the stems. Don’t create a storm inside your grow room, just make sure the air is moving, then gets out and that fresh air gets in.

9) Harvesting Too Soon

A quarter of plant weight will form in the last 10-15 days. Begin flushing the soil with pure water when the pistil are 25% brown. Harvest when the plants have totally stopped growing and the white pistils are at least 50-75% brown.

Harvesting is a technical aspect, so consider this a beginner introduction and you can be sure I’ll cover this topic specifically later into this series.

Thanks for reading everyone, and there will be more next week!

54 Comments

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    Z Says:

    Very nice, simple stuff that’s often overlooked…


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    Russell Carter Says:

    What about pinching leaves and manicuring as the plant grows? I hear that you can make a bushier more productive plant by pinching the new sets of leaves.


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    mike Says:

    number 2 should be number 1…. trust me, i found out the hard way


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    mark Says:

    never pinch leaves


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    Kate Says:

    ok so if not using bag seeds, where do you suggest we get seeds from?


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    Kate Says:

    if its a bad idea to use bag seeds
    where do you suggest one finds seeds then?


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    @ kate Says:

    6.

    if its a bad idea to use bag seeds
    where do you suggest one finds seeds then?

    ummmm….. try google. it has this awesome feature to search for things and answer simple questions


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    steveb Says:

    4OZ COMMON PEROXIDE PER GALLON OF WATER KILLS BACTERIA, FUNGUS SPOORS AND PROVIDES OXYGEN.


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    Nice Article! California has legal Medical Marijuana, don’t be stupid and grow in states where the constitution isn’t being upheld.

    Arizonan’s can thank McCain for sticking with Bush on his war on America, and not excercising Arizona’s vote twice passing Medical Marijuana to be a legal options for recidence.

    Have no fear Cali is only 5 hours away and you can buy and grow legal weed there!

    Go to freedom, before freedom is taken from you, and you get a set of pink panties from the pink Panty fairy!

    Pay your taxes and be legal!

    God bless America!


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    get fucked Says:

    yeah or you can just buy some instead of being a dumb ass and get arrested for ilegal drugs. and it will help save you time and effort.


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    Tim Says:

    @get fucked – Your comment is AWESOMMMME!! Thanks for the contribution.


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    clone Says:

    7) Don’t Start With Clones

    I’m sorry, but I don’t agree.

    Clones are perfect copies of a plant. A powerful plant will therefor give powerful clones. Sure, seed’s nice too, but plants grown from seed will be more of a surprise.

    10 clones, taken from a female plant will result in 10 female plants. 10 seeds will, in most cases, result in 50% males. I’d rather see 10 female plants in my garden as… 10 plants of which 5 are taking a lot of sunlight and space while never resulting in a good high.

    Once MJ is fertilized buds don’t grow much bigger and THC-production slows down a…. lot. Last time I used seed it took 2 months before every plant had shown it’s gender. Clones are therefor perfect for guerrilla farming. One doesn’t need to inspect for males every 3-4 days once the flowering begins.

    Bugs and diseases…
    Does it matter whether a clone or original gets these ? The measures to prevent it and the results if I don’t… are the same.

    I certainly agree that Indoor-growing is a lot more difficult as outdoors. I’d advice people who want to… to start small. Experienced growers may perhaps grow more as a pound of weed per 10 square feet, beginners almost never do.

    So, don’t set your goals too high at first and don’t spend loads & loads of money on a indoor garden. Start doing that once you’ve successfully grown a few crops indoors and know how to recognize/prevent bugs, diseases and other problems.


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    owen Says:

    i have two questions, #4 SEEMS incorrect because you could just as well have seedy bud that came from a pollinated female, also, #7 doesn’t fit in my mind, because you can just turn a clone into a mother as long as it’s a female. can anybody clarify this?


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    gleich Says:

    @ kate

    I must agree with Kate’s question. I myself understand the purpose of Google, and can use it quite well, however, it would be nice if other growers or people in the 420 community could point us towards a KNOWN REPUTABLE SITE, rather than being a snarky jack-ass about it.


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    willfish Says:

    good article.lots of commons sense news.I agree with Mike too 2 should be 1


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    Silvio Says:

    @russell: well. there are techniques that involve pinching and cutting leaves. personally, i think that’s crap. remove only the leaves that are obviously dying. these are the ones that take important energy away from the healthy part of the plant. after you have a few successful harvests under your belt, you will just know what branches/leaves to remove and which not. until then….i agree with mike. why harm your plant if you don’t have to?

    @kate:i was going to refer you to sensiseeds. but i just saw, they won’t ship to the US. and it looks like, most companies won’t. if you DON’T live in the US, use this link
    if you DO live in the US, or just don’t like sensiseeds, follow the link on weedfarmer in the sidebar to grasscity.

    @getfucked: enlightening.

    @clone: you’re right. it is a lot better to grow from clones. i rarely use seeds. only for new strains, and only if i can’t get my hands on good clones. and that’s really not easy sometimes. but if you are a FIRST TIME grower, i think it’s important to see the whole process and understand where your plants come from. after you have your first plants, and see a result from that tiny thing you put into wet paper/cotton balls 3 months ago, you will treat a clone different. and you will most likely be more successful. “adopting” a plant is ok, but in order to raise it the right way, you should know how it all begins, right?

    @owen: trust me, if you buy your seeds at the right place, you won’t get crap. of course, there is always a chance your plant will turn out to be male. even if you buy your seeds of pros, there is no way you can eliminate that risk. but you will get a pure strain. and from there you can produce clones yourself. different thing entirely. as for the clones question: i am talking about clones you get from a buddy. your own clones will most likely be ok. but it’s never a good idea to introduce a foreign element into your garden. and if you do so, proceed with caution. watch very closely. and that’s where most mistakes will happen: watching TOO close. over-carrying can kill a plant as easy as negligence.

    @gleich
    i was going to refer you to sensiseeds. but i just saw, they won’t ship to the US. and it looks like, most companies won’t . if you DON’T live in the US, use this link
    if you DO live in the US, or just don’t like sensiseeds, follow the link on weedfarmer in the sidebar to grasscity.

    ok guys. i hope i was able to answer all the questions. i am, to be honest, a bit surprised here about the amount of questions and feedback. positively surprised that is :D so thanks everybody.


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    joe john Says:

    Your a dumbshit, clones can work better than seeds and for someone to even make sucessful clones they need to have experience, and would make the risk of having diseases and/or parisites non-existant.


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    Silvio Says:

    “you’re” too kind. thank you for “your” input.


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    giraffe Says:

    Epic response to joe john’s grammatical skills Silvio

    I love internet “dumbshits”


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    just kendra Says:

    @Silvio: bwahahahahaha

    “you’re” funny.


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    blueman Says:

    As far as telling folks, I’ve told lots of people over the years. Want to know the trick, PUT THE FEAR OF GOD into them. It does work.


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    piptheman Says:

    clones r seeds who give a shit as long as its a good smoke


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    Ruben Says:

    I have a better idea, don’t plant it because it is illegal? stop being a fkin hippie?


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    Bob Says:

    @Ruben

    I have an even better idea, let people do what they want when they aren’t hurting anybody? Stop being such a submissive pussy?


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    tasmanian takdog Says:

    thanks silvio, found yer guide usefull…do have any
    tips on keeping the power bill down ???lol ;)


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    Steve the Canuck Says:

    @ ruben – It’s all about Social Libertarianism. The US has gone in a stupid direction with regards to their War on Drugs. Weed doesn’t kill people (unless you buy it from a sketchy source and it’s laced, but then you’re an idiot for buying it from them), guns do, war does, evangelical christians drive people to want to (kill). In Canada, weed will land you a small fine – if the cops decide to do anything about it. If you’re caught growing, they’ll shut you down and you’ll get some time, but that’s only because our stupid Conservative government refuses to do what the citizens want.

    Were you one of those kids that complained to the teacher because a few kids were cheating on a test, or something they weren’t supposed to? Unless it’s something serious (neighbour is a coke/crack/heroin dealer or a rapist), let them do their own thing. I don’t smoke or drink at all but I don’t care that others do it. My dad is a huge pot head and was caught for growing years ago, but it’s not like he’s a bad guy or anything.


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    Ruben Says:

    Bob:
    “I have an even better idea, let people do what they want”

    -> LOL. dude, seriously: LOOOL! let’s all do whatever we want, total anarchy, total disorder!!!

    Steve the Canuck:

    “The US has gone in a stupid direction”

    -> The US has always been in a stupid direction

    “Weed doesn’t kill people, guns do, war does, evangelical christians drive people to want to (kill) (…)”

    -> i quote myself: “stop being a fkin hippie”

    “Were you one of those kids that complained to the teacher because a few kids were cheating on a test, or something they weren’t supposed to?”

    -> that just didn’t make any sense, stop smoking weed, maybe ur brain won’t be affected.

    Conclusion: Weed isn’t illegal just because they feel like it, just cos they feel like not letin people smoke it, cos it’s they feel like it is funny to see hippies run around sayin “let me smoke man… i wanna smoke and i shud be alowed to smoke maaaannnn…”. If weed is illegal it is for a reason!! So, why don’t u all fkin hippies stop complainin and go work (or die)? for the best or society!?


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    Silvio Says:

    you, sir, can think whatever you want. and you are obviously not alone with your ideals. a lot of people think that way. and that’s just fine with me.

    lucky for the sane, thinking and responsible rest of the population, more and more people wonder WHY? does the government tell you these things you are using to make your point. and if you would just bother and inform yourself before you start to make a fool out of yourself in public, quoting nonsense and made-up facts…you would think the same way.
    on the other hand, who really cares about your, or my opinion on this subject. you look like an raging fool to me, and i look like a dumb hippie to you. and that’s ok. doesn’t affect anything at all, right? facts stay facts. and reason has the tendency to prevail. it may take a while, but i don’t mind waiting.


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    [...] posts aimed at first time growers. Our guest author is Silvio from WeedFarmer.net – check out the first article here and don’t hesitate to throw some comments Silvio’s [...]


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    Thom Says:

    Does it strike anyone else as odd that someone who is so against the 420 frequents this thread quite a bit? It’s like a straight dude watching gay porn….just doesn’t make sense to me.


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    The Vigilante Says:

    Ruben

    Go get an education. I’ll invite you to my law school graduation. Savy?


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    The Vigilante Says:

    thom

    thats funny shit,… and then ask the dude if hes gay,.. of course not? ;) lol


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    The Vigilante Says:

    Ruben,

    Tell me why it is beneficial to have current drug laws prohibit marijuana use and consuption. What positive affect does it have on society. I can refut any argument you may think you have. Facts are facts,……. the people speak and our government ignores us,….. Anarchy, pot smokers are the last ones that would want that.

    Ruben, ball up!

    The Vigilante

    ps 3-7-77


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    Ruben Says:

    lol The Vigilante, law schools suck, what about u come to my University and learn something like math and physics? without it u wudn’t be here today, so don’t talk to me about education.


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    Ruben Says:

    I just find this funny cos all the hippies like you guys talk about marijuana but if marijuana was legal u’d talk about some other drug, cos marijuana wudn’t be fun to smoke anymore. Just get over yourselves ffs… quit whinning about making marijuana legal and just live without it, is it that necessary in your lives?

    if tabacco wasn’t legal all u hippies wud be like “wow, make tabacco legal man… i wanna smoke tabacco man……”

    people like you guys just like to cause some confusion in society, just like to be “different”, to be “unique”, ur just like anyone else, but dumber! (and high)


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    Nick Jones Says:

    Ok the info is useful. I get seeds from chronic sacks I get, I use these for my outdoor because from a seed they produce 3-5 lbs each. I have an aeroponics setup for my clones(I do clones indoor because its faster) and they root in about 1 week. I put some in soil pots some in hydro pots still leave them under the vegetation light until they get as tall as I want them them they get moved under the HPS light and then they begin to flower. It takes about 3-Months until their ready for harvest. So I do seeds outdoor, clones indoor and i’m harvesting 10-plants a week each indoor plant has about 1 1/2-OZs. it works great for me I love the bomb.


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    Nick Jones Says:

    Everybody who wants to grow or smoke should get your cards it is worth it, I went to a nice medical pharmacy in LA and go some spicy beef jerkey that F’d Me up. all those club’s sell craszy ass strains expecially those Russians they don’t bull-shat you.


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    MPPdotORG Says:

    I have never tried this ‘pinching’ method. However, if you are familiar with the SOG (sea of green) method, you know that you can trim off the larger lower leaves that arent in direct light. Those leaves are using up valuable energy just to grow, which could be directed towards making a larger cola.

    Also, I can’t stress enough the importance of quality soil, not over watering or over fertilizing. As mentioned by Silvio, that can and will most certainly damage, if not kill your plants.

    And yes, I know it’s really hard not to get excited and brag to your friends when you see your green beauty taking off, but do try to keep this to yourself. You can’t get busted if nobody knows anything is going on.

    Another thing to be learned is buying from any hydroponic shops. Yes they have good quality products, but NEVER ask what lights/grow mediums/etc. are good for growing pot no matter how cool they seem. Most if not all dealers are required not to sell to you if they know their product is going to be used for illicit purposes. This is because they can be held accountable for the exact same crimes as you if you are busted. Don’t take it personally, they’re just covering their own ass.

    One more trick for the closet grower. Don’t use foil! It doesn’t reflect the light as well as plain white walls, or even white plastic painters sheets. Also, it’s not perfectly flat, so it reflects light at different angles and your plant may get shady patches.

    And on a final note, stash seeds may not be the best for crops, but save them and on Earth Day take them out and randomly toss them everywhere. Make it a new tradition. They can’t get rid of it all my friends!


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    Jayce Says:

    Ruben, stop bitching… Nuff said.
    Is there any common mistake is curing I need to know about?


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    MPPdotORG Says:

    It’s funny how Ruben thinks everyone that smokes is a hippie. If marijuana was legal, I would still smoke it. I wouldn’t move onto something else. This isn’t about doing something just to get attention. It’s because we either enjoy it or truely believe it shouldn’t be illegal, or both.


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    jayce Says:

    yeah honestly man you don’t have to be a hippie to smoke
    weed, just like you don’t have to be a stupid red neck to take a dip and i just dont understand why you would be on this
    site anyways… do you just surf the net to get pissed off at the world?


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    MPPdotORG Says:

    By the way, if anyone is interested in helping legalize marijuana, you should really check the link in my name. =)

    The Marijuana Policy Project also has a Youtube channel and regularly posts videos. Please subscribe and help the cause.

    Hippies, rappers, rednecks, whoever. . . you’re ALL welcome.


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    Excellent Tips!


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    Ganjus Says:

    As a returning grower, wanting to brush up on my basics and facts, I find threads like this useful. Thanks Silvio for sharing your experience and knowledge.

    If people don’t like the act of growing marijuana, and they live in the United States, the should remember how lucky they are to speak out against it.

    You should also take into consideration the amount of money from drugs (including Marijuana) that is used to fund our countries wars, politics, and economy. Call me a liberal conspiracy theorist, or go start a new thread. (I prefer the later) At this point, it gets very annoying and inconvenient to see the gripes and complaints from a few ignite and pollute a forum.

    Go start your weed hating website, let us have our tribute to its greatness. Maybe we’ll come defend ourselves, but I doubt we’ll find the motivation.

    A Question for Silvio, what do you think would be the best way to set up ventilation in a closet with a rental property? Obviously I can’t go knocking holes in the wall. It’s a small space, with a high ceiling. (which is handy, I love sativa) The door closes all the way, but there isn’t much space to fit anything in there to keep circulation moving. Everything about this room seems right, except my issue with air. Thanks for the help!


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    Silvio Says:

    hi Ganjus,

    is your problem air intake, air outtake or just circulation?
    could you make a picture available of that room?

    but my first thought now was, if you only need better air circulation and the space is small but high, why don’t you hang a ventilator from the ceiling?
    what could also help a bit to get air moving, is some small pc-ventilators. or a combination of both.

    some pics of your grow area would really help…. ;)


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    NewbiePotlova Says:

    It’s people like Ruben that inspire me to inform every single person I can about the facts on Marijuana. I used to be a complete straight edge, the EXACT way Ruben is talking now, but then I tried looking online to see how many people have died from Marijuana. After seeing there has never been a death caused by Marijuana, I was amazed, searched for more information, and now I am one of the most pro-Marijuana legalization people I know. Ruben please just read a little bit on the harm of Marijuana, because you won’t find anything. You need to know the facts before you explode hate out of “your” mouth.


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    buddhagreek Says:

    Ruben… First of all, I’m not a fucking hippie… The term “Hippie” is a creation of the Nixon-era anti sub culture right wing movement that was fueled by neanderthals such as yourself. It just gave idiots like you something to call the Vietnam war opposition. Another thing that I dont understand is why you would be on this page in the first place unless you are interested in growing weed? Maybe you want to investigate it, so you can go crusading around trying to find grow rooms…all this of course before your mom picks you up for dinner….mmmm pork grinds…


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    GREENGUY Says:

    IAM GOING TO TRY TO GROW IN MY ROOM WITHOUT A VENTILATOR AND I AM WONDERING IS THAT A PROBLEM


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    Silvio Guspini Says:

    depenends. location. open/tent. strain (smell)


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    Syriaan Says:

    Silvio, Thank you for all the helpful advice. I was thinking about the underfertilization process you were speaking of. You didn’t really mention why it was bad to underfertilize the plants, but you did say that if we chose to give the plants the “exact amount” of nutrients we could use other methods.
    I am curious about this. Are better plants grown with just a little underfertilization? What I mean is, does it produce a sturdier plant?

    Merry Christmas! Smokem’ if u gottem’ =p


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    Syriaan Says:

    Also, I was wondering about this…just came to mind…I heard that if you snip the ends of the leaves..just a little bit, that it helps the plant produce more THC as a defense. I was just wondering if this method was known to you and if it actually works.


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    Skittlez420 Says:

    Yo ruben… Ur a moron!! Do u even know why bud is illegal? ur runnin ur mouth an u have not a clue as to why u feel bud is bad. It was illegalized because of the oil companys.People where smart an useing the brains “unlike rubben” an making hemph oil from the seeds. An there for they where loosing money, so they illegalized it. go bak to school and learn sumthin,are they not teachin u shyt in school??


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    adam Says:

    great tips for first timers! was wondering if you could tell me if its true that you cant over water when growing in coco? thanx

    p.s. ruben is a fag!!!!!!!!!!



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